Frequently Asked Questions
Are Kinders dual purpose?
Yes! Kinders are great for both milk and meat purposes.
Does my Kinder need to have friends?
Yes! Kinders (goats overall) should never be alone. They are herd animals by nature. Without a herd, they can become depressed, agressive, and so on. The same goes for bucks, they should always have a wether or another buck.
Do you use LGDs?
Yes! We currently have two Pyreneese. They are both 2.5 years old. However, we do not believe this is necessary for goats, especially in the area we live in (central IL). Our largest predator is typically coyotes.
We mostly use LGDs as a deterent from pests taking chickens.
LG (livestock guardians) can come in many different formats; donkeys, emus, llamas, alpacas, ostrichs, dogs, etc.
For LGDs, specifically, pyrenese are not able to be full time in with animals until they are 2 yo, the lightbulb from kill to protect hasn’t quite switched over yet.
All LGDs should come from a breeding line that is specifically bred to guard/are dam and sires specific job.
Random animals along these catigories will likley not do the the job you require as well as ones specifically bred to do so. Please research this topic more.
Can I buy does that are bred?
Yes! If you come to the farm and decide you want a particular doe that has already been bred, we cannot change who the sire of that offspring is.
However, if you pre-purchase a doe and decide you want her bred at pickup then we can go through our buck options. We will put the doe in with the desired buck for up to a month.
Though, we cannot guarentee for 100% that breeding did occur, but will make our best attempts.
How do I pre-purchase a Kinder?
If you would like to pre-purchase a doe before pickup, you can either pay through our website OR we can send a Square invoice (card). If you pay through the website, total price is required at checkout, but if you request a Square invoice 50% of total is required (the rest is required upon pickup).
Do I have to put a deposit down to put a Kinder on hold?
Yes! If you are planning on getting a Kinder (or more) at a later date a 50% deposit of full price + taxes is required immediatly. the remaining 50% is required in cash at pickup.
Otherwise the Kinder will not be held.
Can I come to the farm?
Yes! We would love for you to come to the farm. However, we require both parties to set a specific time and date to do so. Outside parties are not allowed to enter the property without proir permission.
Are you registered breeders?
Yes! We are registered KGBA breeders. Most of our Kinders leave the farm registered. Sometimes buyers do not care to wait for paperwork and decide against getting them registered. Based on buyer preferance.
How long after kids hit the ground can they go to a new home?
After 8-12wks. This soley depends on when dams wean them. We will not sell bottle babies.
Should I buy a buck?
Totally depends on your situtation.
Do you have AT LEAST 2 acres?
No → Then no buck. You will need more room for multiple pens, especially if you are planning on breeding.
Do you have AT LEAST 2 separate pens set up (doe and buck pens)?
No → Fix it. Then get a buck.
Do you have shelter options?
No → Fix it. Then get a buck.
Are you planning on purchasing AT LEAST another buck or wether(s)?
No → No buck. Bucks, just like does are herd animals. They cannot be without friends, but can also not be in with does for long periods of time, especially if you have does under 18 months old or younger babies. They could impregnate young does, with the possibility of killing them.
Do you know how to handle a buck/are comfortable with learning to do so?
No → No buck. Bucks can be hard to handle. If you cannot or will not be able to handle them, please do not purchase one.
Having a buck can be challenging. Bucks need at least one companion, ideally two. We recommend a group of three boys so no goat is left alone when one is out breeding, since loneliness can be deadly for goats.
Should I buy Kinders?
Totally depends on your situation!
Do you have any Kinders at home?
No → Then you will need to purchase AT LEAST two.
Do you have at least half an acre?
No → Then no Kinders.
Do you have shelter options?
No → Then fix that first.
Do you have solid fencing?
No → Then fix that first. Kinders can be escape artists.
Do you have time every day for chores?
No → Then Kinders aren’t for you.
Do you have access to hay and a local feed store?
No → Then hold off until you do.
Do you want to learn more and are willing to do what you need to to successfully purchase and raise goats?
Yes → Then get yourself some Kinders!
What do Kinders eat?
Kinders thrive on quality hay, minerals, clean water, and limited grain (mostly for growing kids or milkers). They also enjoy browse — weeds, brush, and leaves — when available.
How often do goats need their hooves trimmed?
Every 4–6 weeks depending on terrain and growth rate.
Do you deworm or give vaccines?
No. Goats can become immune to vaccines and dewormers that are given regularly. In the case that the goat would need the vacccines or dewormers to get rid of illnesses or worms, the medicine would then not work becasue they have become immune.
Do they need minerals?
Yes! Free-choice is the best way to self regulate.
Do Kinders have horns?
Yes and no! We have both, horned and disbudded. Some owners prefer one over the other, but we have not had any issues having a mixed herd. Horned can be easier to grab, but can also cause more damage. Disbudded cannot defend themsleves against predators as well.